death penalty

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phenom_enal

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I read on the Sydney Morning Herald that the Indonesian govt has just executed several people on drug-related crimes. Aside from drug offences what else is subject to capital punishment in Indonesia?

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Sucipto Raharjo 1421747340

To date the Brazilian, Dutch and Nigerian ambassadors have been recalled by their respective governments for "consultation" on the matter.


In the case of Brazil, there was a lot of coverage about this on the media where the last death sentence was carried out in 1885 (if not mistaken). The Australian Foreign Mnister, Julie Bishop has also spoken out against this act, probably since there are several Australians sented to death on drug-related crimes. 


The local sentiment for the most part wants the same death sentences applied to corrupt politicians and officials; people are split between endorsing death penalties for drug charges.

kiwi73 1422103792

Yeah on one hand they kill these drug mules and have the audacity to let dirty coppers get elected to the top position.


What a bunch of hypocrites. I knew the corruption was endemic here, but what I saw over the last few days is really sickening.


What's more I learned from a local friend at work, that wasn't the first time cops tried to pull this trick here.


Can someone enlighten me on what's going on? It certainly doesn't make for a good investment climate to see top ranking officials like the vice head of the anti corruption body get dragged off for a day with flawed due process.


Is this what the new change brings? What a load of BS! I certainly woudn't want to invest nor suggest it to anyobody, in a place where even one of their own doesn't have equality before the law.


 

Sucipto Raharjo 1422104588

Kiwi73 lemme put that into the context for you:


The drug industry has now targeted Indonesia as a destination, not a transit country. So the flow of illegal drugs coming in has exponentially increased.


Combine that with free trade (meaning more opportunities for smugglers to abuse the weak inspecition systems), and the greater flow of people from all the southeast asian countries, then it's a recipe for disaster unless the government takes a very harsh (albeit symbolic) stance.


For what concerns the hypcorisy of the national police, this I believe is a legacy of Suharto's period, or even beyond that. The police ever since colonial days has always been an accomplice to illicit behaviour of the government.


Irrespective of who is in power, there are forces there that will always be ready to comply with their new masters.


It's a challenge for the new government, but in some circles there's a lot of skepticism. You are reight that if things don't change substantially, some very cautious investors would rather take their money elsewhere, where at least the legal standing of an individual or a corporation won't be traded to the highest bidder.


 


 

genarot 1422870189

As for the fate of others on death row: having a diplomat assigned to their care not focus on her work doesn't help the efforts either:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2934719/Bali-s-Mr-Big-affair-jail-UK-consul-mean-certain-death-drug-mule-granny.html


and people in the UK are calling the Indonesians harsh? I'd check with the people assigned to help them first.


Personally I'm for the death penalty for any drug offenders beyond users. The users are victims, but people that are involved in the drug industry come in there knowing what poison they spread around. We're not talking about a few joints here, but outright cocaine smuggling.

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